"Edgy" Toy Story

Special thanks to all the folks who have sent me THIS CLIP about the early fights of “Toy Story”. Hard to believe this gold standard almost never happened. Is this clip is comforting or disturbing? It sure proves that this has all happened before, and it will all happen again.


15 Responses to “"Edgy" Toy Story”

  • Anonymous Says:

    send the clip to Weinstein Company lol

  • Red Says:

    Oh my god. Excuse my language, but I'm glad Woody turned out to be the Woody we know today, instead of of a pull-string asshole like the one in the Black Friday reel. There's something to be learned from this.

    I think the best kind of movie is the one that says soul over standards. I think that notes are somewhat of a good thing, but too much of a good thing can become a problem. When Pixar followed just about every note they (Disney) gave them, including the "edgy" part, it made for an awful movie. Woody was a complete jerk. He pushed Buzz out the window INTENTIONALLY, he was yelling at Slinky Dog like he was about kick him, and he was giving orders like he was a human child himself.

    If "edgy" means characters acting like total jerks, than I'd rather be a wuss.

  • Chris Says:

    Cory,

    If this is a hint of what is to come with Fraggles, I am VERY afraid. Fraggle Rock was meant and designed for children, not adults.

    However, Fraggle Rock appeals to adults because it makes them re-find the child in themselves. It helps adults to re-learn that innocence and joy of being a child in a new and bright world and to re-discover things about the world for what seems like the first time.

    The thing that stuck me about going back and watching Fraggle Rock was how deep the messages were. If kids can get them, why couldn't adults?

    Truth be told, if you make an honest, morally solid kids movie that emphasizes family. friendship and points of some of the vastly stupid things we do as people, as things that need to be changed, it doesn't just make for great kid's entertainment. It makes for great FAMILY entertainment.

    It also inspires children to grow up and to make changes to those things that are wrong in the world. Again, Jim Henson's original vision was to prevent war with this show. It was designed to show the interconnectivity between cultures, technology and nature.

    In the last season you hit even more in-depth topics like death and environmental pollution for greed's sake.

    If the Weinsteins want to make this edgy and it turns out anything like the clip from Toy Story, I would almost tell you to bail now so that you wouldn't have to be associated with such an atrocity.

    Again, it should be your vision driving this forward, not theirs. I can't stand it when studio executives think that they know better than the visionary that they hired to handle the project in the first place.

    Again, you have my support and my assistance in any way.

    God Bless,
    Chris

  • Cory Edwards Says:

    Thanks, Chris. Couldn't have said it better myself… the script that we have right now touches on every world issue you mentioned. And yes, prayers are always appreciated here.

  • Chris Says:

    Cory,

    Thank you for responding to my novel of a post. If I had the schooling, experience or raw talent necessary, I would go to Weinstein and apply for the job to ensure that your vision is kept.

    I usually have great ideas for stuff but, have little success in execution.

    Anyway, I really am glad that you respond to people on your blog as equals. There are many in Hollywood who see themselves as "above" the common person because of their success.

    This is a character trait that helps to prove to me that you are the type of person that would get Jim's vision right.

    It is too bad The Weinstein Company doesn't have a public-facing email address, or contact form on their site. I would be sure to use it on your, and Fraggle's behalf. Maybe I will have to get my old letter writing skills out and send something via snail mail.

    Again, you have my support and the support of my family. I truly hope and pray that it is YOUR vision hitting the screens when this comes out. And, let me assure you that because I have a friend who manages a theater, I will be one of the first to see it.

    On a personal note, you seem like the type of person who is trying to add a re-vitalizing spark into family movies. Hoodwinked was a great piece of work compared to many of the "family" stuff that is out there. You seem like the type of person that I can get behind in Hollywood, and that is rare these days.

    I will keep an eye on your blog and continue to post encouragement and thoughts on what is going on. I'll try not to spam you though…LOL.

    God Bless,
    Chris

  • Chris Says:

    Cory,

    One last thing. Here is my effort to do what I can to support your vision. I don't know how much it will help in the grand scheme of things.

    http://www.lifeonfire.org/2010/06/fraggles-under-fire-a-call-to-action/

    God Bless,
    Chris

  • Cory Edwards Says:

    Wow, Chris, your call to arms blows me away. Thanks for being so fired up about this. You're right, encouragement from people out there goes a long way as I try to make this film what it should be.

  • Jeremiah Says:

    Well I'm definitely going to write a letter to the Weinstein Company. If there is anything else I can do to help let me know.

  • Peter T Chattaway Says:

    A thought occurs to me. When I watched the Toy Story 3D double-bill last year, it had been a while since I had last seen the original film, and I was struck by how antagonistic the toys in Andy's room were to each other — and I was also struck by some of the arguably more risque jokes. (The first two that come to mind both involve Mr Potato Head; in one, he quips that Woody has "laser envy" after meeting Buzz Lightyear, and in the other, he takes his mouth off and has it kiss his own butt.) Toy Story 2, for its own part, ends with a "blooper reel" that includes at least one loud fart and a scene in which Stinky Pete leers at two Barbies after confirming that they are "absolutely identical" and more-or-less inviting them over to his casting couch. So, like it or not, an element of "edgy" did find its way into those movies.

  • WinkyGoMoo Says:

    I haven't seen much of Fraggle Rock, but I've seen enough to understand that it doesn't deserve to be edgy. I'll spread the word and keep this in my prayers. :)

  • Ryan Says:

    Cory, i don't know if you've had a chance to watch the entire "Pixar Story" doc, but it is undoubtedly one of the most inspirational things I've seen in a long time. I think I've watched it three times! For some reason watching how those guys dealt with all the struggles they faced (Lasseter getting canned at Disney in the 80s because he wanted to use 3D in animation, for example), really encourages me.

    http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewMovie?id=297213335&s=143441

  • Chris Says:

    Cory,

    Just out of curiosity, are you planning on using any of the music from the original show such as the title theme and the re-occurring song "Come and Follow Me" that appears in several episodes?

    Or are the rights that you have only to the project name, characters, their likeness and voices?

  • Chris Says:

    Cory,

    Sorry to write so much but, I occasionally get inspired. I just re-watched the behind the scenes piece on the 40th edition of Mary Poppins. If there were 2 creative geniuses that changed the face of family entertainment forever, they would be Walt Disney and Jim Henson. Sometimes I feel saddened by the commercialization that has occurred in their companies, especially Disney.

    There were 2 quotes that really stuck out to me in the behind the scenes. One was in regard to Walt and his ideal of childhood innocence. He wanted to make films that tapped into that, and not only tapped into it but, enabled children to leave the film unjaded, retaining and even built up in that innocence that they had.

    The second was in regard to the way Walt approached films for families. It was said that Walt never lost his inner child, and therefor, made his films catered to the children, not their parents. In the end, you get a great film that doesn't need to appeal to "adults" because the child in all of us cries out with joy.

    My final point in all of this would be what ended up being Walt's favorite song, and the point of the movie Mary Poppins. The song "Feed the Birds" is about caring, generosity and love. It says it in a simple, non-preachy way that just drives home the entire story. This is what films are missing today.

    Cory, as a writer and director, I seriously encourage you to go to a library or purchase Mary Poppins and watch the behind the scenes. I think it is a total validation of your work, and may inspire you as you press on.

    I wish I had been born in a time where I could have been involved with such greats as Disney and Henson. Their work has changed the lives of millions. Unfortunately, by today's standards, I lack the knowledge and training necessary to "make it" in the communications business. My problem is I care too much and I am an idealist. I don't want to stab someone in the back to get ahead in life, nor do I consider any job just as a way to get money. I pour as much of me as I can into what I do, no matter what it is.

    If it were up to me, and if anyone would listen, I would march into the board room of every major production studio there is, especially Disney, and tell them how far off the path they are.

    While on the surface it appears that people today just want entertainment, it isn't what they are truly looking for. Consumers want entertainment but, they want truth in that entertainment. They want a message that is grounded to something that is inherently good and right, without them even knowing why, or where it comes from.

  • Chris Says:

    Sure, you can reel someone in for an "edgy" 90 minute fluff film, but, will they remember it? Will that film have something that they will want to hand on to their kids, and their grand-kids? Will it have a message that transcends trends and technology?

    I would say to the film industry as a whole, you really want your companies to succeed? You really want to reel in the big bucks? Then why make a film that will be forgotten? Make something that will last for generations. That way, no matter how video distribution changes, VHD, DVD, Blu-Ray, etc, you will ALWAYS have an inspired audience that will buy your product.

    Cory, I know that this ideal is a big order for anyone to fill. Nobody expects perfection, or another Mary Poppins. However, I pray to God that He gives you the grace needed to create such a film. I also pray that one of the higher ups in the production company reads this, is inspired, and understands.

    All it takes is 1 person to make a difference or set a new way of doing things. Once this is done, the industry will have to take notice, because, families will flock to it, not just once, but over and over again.

    I truly wish I could be more involved with this. I wish I was the head of a major studio, or a producer. Alas, I am not, and my ideals will not make me one.

    My ideas would probably be laughed at by anyone with money and power in Hollywood. But, it is the truth.

    Anyone can make a film. Making a film that is legendary and that transcends time, trends and age; one that puts forth a universal truth that makes the audience walk away built up, restored with childhood joy and innocence, THAT is what few people can do.

    Walt Disney and Jim Henson did just that and I truly believe in you Cory. You seem to get it. Yes, I know I am comparing you to industry giants who changed the world. They didn't start off that way. They started off struggling, building their careers bit by bit. They had ups and downs, certainties and doubts, but, they endured and became what we know them as today.

    Cory, you can do this. No matter what the studio execs say, no matter what your colleagues may say, no matter who or what may discourage you, you can do this. It is a tall order, no question, but, this project is something today's families need, and are craving. Fraggle Rock is the perfect vehicle to restore this ideal in the film industry.

    Your aspirations are noble and true, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Be inspired by your forefathers, such as Disney and Henson. They did things the right way, and were rewarded, not just as big names, but, with lifelong friendships and the appreciations of millions of families of multiple generations. Let them be your guides in your career, and you will never go wrong.

  • Anonymous Says:

    As I see it, Cory, the Weinstein Company doesn't realize that Fraggle Rock wasn't that "edgy" when aired; it was a kid's/all ages show! Toy Story was also an all ages movie, and it worked out fine without being edgy. However, I would just like to point out from a movie review that I saw on Toughpigs that it needs a bit more of Mokey Fraggle.

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